Vulnerability, Disney World, and Heaven

Welcome to Season Four! Yay!! We're so happy to back with y'all! And we're looking looking forward to a new season of impactful and fun conversations. To start the season off, Lele and Juli catch up on life after the short break between seasons and then take a dive into the topics of vulnerability, Disney World, and heaven.  Sounds intriguing, right?! This episode is packed full of content so grab your favorite caffeinated beverage and pull up a chair. We can't wait to share it with y'all! 

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Hey guys. Welcome back to my Tennessee table. We are launching season four today. Woo. And we are so excited. I am really stretching Julie on today's episode and I'm super excited about it. We have been like kind of talking back and forth about, okay, season four, season four, season four, what are we talk about, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, Julie, what if we just,'cause we haven't. Personally caught up in several weeks. I was like, what if we just get on the podcast? We just hit record and we go and we talk, we catch up Because we've said a lot of our favorite conversations that we've had with each other have happened off mic, right? Like they happened in our pre podcast chat time. And so we were like, what if we just recorded the pre podcast chat time for you guys?'cause those have been some of our most special moments together, like just as friends and so. We're excited to like take you guys along for the ride today. So on the journey. Here we go, Julie. Here we go. Feeling front row seat. How you feeling? You feeling? Okay? Front row seat to be in stretch. I had, okay, listen. Yeah, I still made notes because I Yeah, of course. Of course. I'm a planner. Yeah. Lily went for a walk. Yes, which is where all the inspiration and the calm and just beautiful thoughts come from. I make notes, so I made some notes anyways. I didn't totally go without notes, but I wrote in the notes that I appreciate you so much because you really pushed me towards vulnerability. Oh. Which is interesting.'cause I really feel like I'm pretty open and authentic. Yeah. And vulnerable and real. Yeah. I think, yeah. But you know, going without the note and going without a, Direct, I shouldn't say direction'cause we are, we're doing our pre podcast chat. Yeah. There's a direction. It's almost like a podcast before the podcast. Yeah. When we talk. Yeah. and it again, like Lily said, it is, they are cherished moments for me, some of our best times in friendship have happened sitting at the table Yeah. Prior to hitting the go button. And then we will say, oh man, I wish we had hit record on that. Or we'll be like, what did we say? Do you remember? Can we write that down? And. Talk about it again, it's funny you talk about vulnerability and you being vulnerable.'cause I was just thinking about this. I was like, I think I'm a vulnerable person. And then I thought, am I a vulnerable person? Who am I being vulnerable with? Like what are the things that I'm struggling with? Am I talking to anybody about that? Like, I don't know. Sometimes I think I'm an open book. I would tell you anything, but am I really like, I don't know. I think that's like something that I think. You personally think that you're more vulnerable than you really are. Do you know what I mean? Because you are sharing to an extent that you feel comfortable with and then you're like, yeah, I like shared everything. I poured it out. Yeah. Okay. I wrote the same thing. Really? Really? This is so thank you, God. See, this is what happens. Before we hit Yes. The podcast record button. Yes. So, yay. Thank you for talking me into this. Okay, here we go. I did, I thought. I'm a vulnerable person. Mm-hmm. And then I, in my notes, I thought, okay, our voice mine in my head is the loudest. It's the, most prominent, it's the one that I talk to most of the day. So when I share in vulnerability. Some of that processing has happened in here already in my mind. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And so I think, oh yeah, I was totally vulnerable. Yeah. But really three-fourths of that conversation happened inside me. It didn't happen to digest or process with another person. Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah. But I thought I have, yeah. That I have really done it. And I'm thinking, okay, I don't think I really did it. And then even deeper, this is what Lily does to me even deeper, is an, I think in ways I can only speak for myself, Uhhuh, I think we train our, I train myself mm-hmm. Against vulnerability. Hmm. Because I know deep, deep down, there's been other circumstances in vulnerability that have been painful. Mm-hmm. Or I associate them with being vulnerable, caused the pain, when really it may not have, but they just happened to. I dunno coincide at the moment. Mm-hmm. So sometimes I think we train ourselves not to be vulnerable. With other people, but even not to be vulnerable with ourselves. Hmm. Because it's uncomfortable. Oh yeah. To sit in whatever that may, kind of conjure up in our emotions or our mind. We just took a deep dive. We totally did in the first four minutes. And I'm like, now my thoughts are just spinning deeper and deeper.'cause I'm like, golly, when I am alone with God. And we just got through finishing a season on spiritual formation. Yes. Which was super fun and we really enjoyed it. But it was heavy duty studying for us, which is why we're kind of taking a turn here and just kind of saying, let's just go for it. Right. On one of our episodes. But we talked about, meditation. Mm-hmm. And silence and solitude and those kind of things. And I think. When we practice those things, silence and solitude, meditation, prayer, that's when we can really sit with the Lord and we can really say show me, show me, Lord. Like show me where those, those places are those deep, dark places that I don't wanna go to are. And so if we're not. Practicing those things, then we're probably not getting really vulnerable with ourselves like and with the Lord. Mm-hmm. Because we're not taking the time to sit, to ask God and then to sit and listen to what he has to say. Mm-hmm. Because it could be kind of painful for him to say, well, I mean he loves us and he wants us to. see those things in ourselves because he wants to grow us and he wants to trim off the things that, you know, are not bearing any fruit so that we can turn into these big, beautiful trees and flowering, you know, beautiful things. Yes, but I mean, pruning is hard and it's painful, so. Sometimes we have to face that and that's tough. Mm-hmm. Well, in prep, and not even prep, just my quiet time this week. Mm-hmm. I'm, I'm trying to be really consistent. That was one of my, goals for this year. Yeah. Is to find a time consistently within my day that's the same time. for me, if I didn't do it in the morning, then life got in the way and I'm. Running here and running there, and then I'm going to bed and I'm like, oh, I'm gonna read my book book, you know, rather than do my devotion. Yeah.'cause usually I have a book that I'm reading or two. Anyhow. So in doing that and knowing these thoughts of vulnerability and needing to spend time with the Lord and silence and solitude, listen, I have been a rockstar this week. There go. Okay. I'm listening to my preacher I listen to every morning that has devotional do in my Bible study for the gathering on Wednesday mornings. Mm-hmm. I'm doing some little extra and I realize what I've done is I've added more to do. Feeling like, oh yeah, I did it, but I didn't add any quiet listen time. Oh, at all, Julie. And so I'm gonna cry. this morning I was like. Oh my goodness. Think thank the Lord he brought to my attention. Like all of that is great. Mm-hmm. That knowledge is great. Listen to other people's hearts. It's great. I would like to spend some time with you. Mm-hmm. So I did it this morning and it was peaceful and it was good. And it was good for me. Yeah. And then afterwards I thought, why do I associate that? Like you said, sometimes it can be painful, Uhhuh, but why don't I think that God has good things in store for me too? Yeah. In that time with him, it's not always a challenge or. A sin to confess or wrestle through? Right. Or, the next big hurdle or the apology you need to make, or, mm-hmm. Sometimes it's good. Yeah. Like why, why am I associating that time and quiet and vulnerability that it will be something hard? God has good things in store for us too. Yeah. And that's a miss. Mm. If I don't spend that time. So anyways, I've been really busy this week doing my devotion and some writing, I have a little project going on and, but not a lot of sitting with him. Oh. Yes. Which God knew I needed. So it was a challenge when you had said, Hey, let's do this. Let's, let's have our conversation. And, uh, we always pray before we get on the podcast Mm-hmm. And sometimes that's spontaneous too. Whatever happens to be going on in our life mm-hmm. That, you know. We're coming in with hair on fire or something's going on, and we pray through that. That's usually me. It's, you know, it's, I dunno, well maybe it's me, but I never tell you because I've not been vulnerable. There we go. Who knows LE's better. She's good for me. She's so good for me in so many ways. Well, no, it's usually like a kid problem. Like I usually come in here and Julie's like, Hey, what's going on? Are you okay? And I'm like, blah. And I just like word vomit on her for like. 30 minutes about Laney's going through this Cade's, going through this, Emmy's doing this, Eric's doing this, dah. And it just is like this, and I love it. Oh, I love it. I'm glad. Okay. Okay. I just for a minute to lighten the load. Please, please, please tell us about Emmy's song. Oh gosh. This Emmy Week song this week. This week, week. It's only Tuesday. When, whatever, today it is. So yesterday at school, she learned this continent song. It's like Asia, Africa, I don't know, all seven continents. South America something, something. Yeah. Yeah. She, from the time she got home till the time she went to bed, she did not stop singing this during song. And I'm taking her to gymnastics. She's singing the song, I'm picking her up from gymnastics. She's singing the song. Finally, I put her in the bathtub. She shakes her bath, she gets outta the bathtub, and I don't know where I was, but she found my phone and she recorded herself singing the song for me. I thought, Emmy, thank you. I do know all seven continents. She never stops. She just never, she never stops. Julie. Oh my gosh. It was so cute all the time. So cute. Well, then she did again this morning, didn't she? Did she? That was last night. Oh, that was last night. That was last night. Okay. Night before she went to bed, she had a bath so Emmy Songbird, and then I said, she's like you and Eric, which doesn't surprise me because both of you are musical and he Yeah. Do you, do you play anything Eric plays? I taught myself how to play the guitar in college, but then I, I haven't played that in a long time. Okay. Yeah. You're a vocalist. I do. I sing. And Eric plays. Eric plays sings. He was a vocal, what was he vocal performance major at Belmont. Belmont. No, that's a big deal. If you don't know Belmont, I mean, they have a lot of program. Wonderful programs, but known for music. But here's the thing. He is an anesthesia now. That's right. So it's like what he could sing to them what happened? He does. Oh, Julie. He sings, he does, he sings in the hospital all the time. Everybody that works with him knows that he's just constantly singing. I think I knew that about him in the neighborhood that he'll sing. Oh, it's, it's constant singing his family. They constantly sing. They, it's just like you're living in a musical. It's like, Lala and I love to sing. I have always sung and performed, but this is like, this is like to the next level of singing. It's constant. They're just making up song. I mean, I kind of, sometimes I'm like, okay, yeah, I'll buy into this. Yeah. And I'll, I'll just sing along and make up my own song. And then sometimes I'm just like, I gotta leave. I gotta get outta here. So Emmy comes by it naturally. Totally. Totally. Yeah. Kate's the only one who doesn't really do it, so, oh geez. I don't know. Yeah. Okay. Right. Yes. So in my Women's Bible study on Wednesday, tell me I haven't led a study for, well, I led ours in our neighborhood, so I did small group in our neighborhood. Yeah. But, we haven't done that for, I don't know, half a year or something like that. So I am leading one at church and loving it. And one of the gals in my group. Had, the special event plan for some of her friends in her neighborhood and during group, she, got a call. Mm-hmm. Somebody has a flu, can't go. So at the end of group, she's trying to find people to go. And I said, well, I would be more than willing, I don't wanna invite myself, which I just did. I mean, invited myself. I thought myself, I know no one except her and the other little lady Uhhuh in my group. And so she said, oh my gosh, that'd be so great. And she, they let me go. I know no one Okay. And. Okay, so I meet them in their neighborhood. You may know this place in Columbia, Columbia is south of where we are. Mm-hmm. It's a little town. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Not very far. And it's Amy Montgomery. Do you know Amy Montgomery House or home or something like that? No. I had no idea. Okay. So I was going blind. I was moving in my. Seven ness. Oh, in health on the Enneagram, because I'm a one, so if I'm feeling really good on the seven, so was like what? You'll just be adventurous? Yeah. Yeah. I had no idea what we were doing. So we get there and you shop in her little store, which was super cute. Oh. And then she has a home behind the shop that is historic and it's restored. Oh, cool. So then they either drive your walkie, we walked. Over there, and as soon as you walk in, it's gorgeous. It just screams cozy home, comfort. Beautiful. Mm-hmm. Colors were wonderful so you can tour the house. And then unbeknownst to me, well, she had set two beautiful tables Place mats and table runners and flowers and crystal. It was gorgeous. Wow. And she made three different kinds of soup, uhhuh. And then she also did like a cornbread tutorial, like in the skillet. Oh. Anyways, I've always didn't know how to do that. It was so cool. And then after that, we all ate. And then after that she did like a flower arranging. Oh, that's so cool. It was so great just to be a little adventuresome and go on this whim with the girls in my group who, we know this, if you do things outside a small group Yes. Your heart's just meshed together. Absolutely. Yeah. And so it was such a beautiful time. I thought, okay, oh, when you get some girls in the neighborhood, let's do a flower arranging class. Get on down there. It was so fun. That would be so fun. It was super fun. Yeah. Anyways, okay, well, we just got back from spring break. Yes. Okay. So spring break was a couple weeks ago and I took, I, I took, yeah. Yeah. Right. Uh, we, my husband and I took our kids to Disney World and it was so fun and we're not like. Necessarily. Every year we go to Disney World, but we do, this wasn't my kid's first time. Like we go every two to three years or so, and we all love it. I mean, let's just be honest, like there's nothing like the magic of Disney. It's just special. And it was just the. Best week, Julie. I cried. Oh. As we pulled away from Disney, I cried. I started crying. Eric's like, are you crying? And I'm like, yes. And the kids are like, mom, are you crying? I was like, yes. I was like, you guys, you just don't know how special this time is and how just wonderful it is. And I just, I started thinking about how. While we were there, Emmy, who we've just talked about. Mm-hmm. She's crazy. She, she's little, she's six and she's running up to all the characters and believing that they're real. Yeah. And she's, you know, they're do like a character little dance party in the middle of the street. She's running in and joining the dance party, just loving every second of it. And I thought, oh my gosh, I'm not ever gonna come back here with a kid this little, you know, like the next time I come back. Grands, you baby grands, you'll go with baby grands. Yeah, eventually, someday, yeah. I'll go back before that, but yes, but the next time I go back, there just won't be anybody really little and it just made me sad, but then also made me, I. Just wanna live in the moment and soak it all in. Mm-hmm. And we were, one night, we were on the Dumbo ride at the Magic Kingdom. Mm-hmm. And you know, the Dumbo elephant and you just sit in it. It was just me and Emmy and it went all the way up high. And you're going around and you can kind of see the park. It's going round and round. I thought, oh Lord, I just wanna, I just wanna be in this moment. How do I be in this moment? Mm-hmm. Because sometimes if you wanna be in the moment so much, it's hard. To be in the moment, right?'cause you're just already thinking past it. You're already like, right, I'm gonna miss this someday. Right? I'm gonna miss these kids being little. And I felt like the Lord was just like. Use your senses, take it all in. Oh, smell. See, touch, feel. I could like smell the worm floor air. I could look out and see all the twinkle lights around Disney. I grabbed Emmy and felt her little squishy thigh and her little squishy arm and I just thought, okay, that's how I do this.'cause sometimes it's so hard to be present. Mm-hmm. In the moment. Especially when your kids are little and they're running around like crazy and you're just like, oh, this is crazy. Mm-hmm. Or like for me, I'm just in this golden season of life where my kids are all I'm not changing diapers anymore. I'm not getting anybody dressed anymore. People can fix their own snacks. Like there's this age where it's just really sweet. Mm-hmm. And wonderful. And everybody, uh, gets along for the most part, you know, and that's where I'm at and I wanna just savor every minute of it, but I don't wanna. Of think about savoring every minute of it to the point where I'm like missing it, you know? Right. Mm-hmm. So Disney was amazing and I do feel like I was just so grateful. And I even prayed before we left. I was like, Lord, just let this be a sweet week for my family. of us just having quality time bonding together and just come back with just these wonderful memories. Mm-hmm. And I feel like we did that like a thousand percent. I'm so thankful. It was awesome. That's so thankful. And Emmy roll rode every single stinking rollercoaster at that park. Even the one that went upside down and that no one else would ride. She was like, Woohoo. And uh, tower of Terror, the one that drops you. She was like me. That was boring. I was like, oh girl, you're just like me. Oh, oh, you like'em? Oh, I love the rollercoasters. In fact, okay, so there's this new rollercoaster called, guardians of the Galaxy. Oh, I've heard of this. It is so much fun. So it goes so fast and you're kind of spinning around, but not the kind of spinning around that makes you sick. Yeah, like the teacups, it's like a, I don't even know how to describe it, but when it starts, it's playing these old songs. Like you could get like a, do you remember? Oh mm-hmm. The 20th first night. Mm-hmm. Okay. So you could get that one or you get Everybody Rules the World Tears for Fears. Oh yeah. Or uh, one of our songs was one way or another. So it's like you just take off and these songs are playing and you're like, yeah, so we're on this rollercoaster and I am having these. Thoughts again, like I just, sometimes I'm like lately, just stop thinking and enjoy, enjoy the rollercoaster, which I totally was, but I thought, Lord, are there gonna be rollercoasters in heaven because this is so fun. Like this is where I find so much joy. I am like laughing cackling Emmy's beside me. She's laughing cackling, I'm just screaming at the top of my lungs. In fact, Lainey was a few rows back and didn't realize it was me, and we got off the ride. She was like. Mom, there was some old lady, a few words ahead of me, and she was having the best time. I was like, that was me. That was totally me. Apparently my hair looked white in there with the light, so she thought it was like a gray-haired woman. And I was like, yeah, that was sweet. So I just soaked up every second of that Disney trip. It was. Amazing. And I hope there's roller coasters in heaven. Oh my gosh. You know, my friend years ago, our kids were, they were both named Austin. My youngest is Austin, her oldest was Austin Uhhuh. Anyways, we went to kindergarten together and, and her son had asked her, this, deep thought, you know, he was younger, that they would've been maybe kindergarten, first grade. Yeah. And ask mom, what's heaven like, will we have fun? Or we would. Be poured. Well, I miss here. And I thought her response was so great, rather than like, streets of gold honey and no tears. Yeah. And no pain, which is good. Yeah. I mean, thank you Lord. Yeah. But for a little person, I don't know how that equates to their mm-hmm. Kind of, um, understanding. Mm-hmm. Or, or hope of heaven. Mm-hmm. And she said, God made you, this reminds me of what you were saying about rollercoasters. Mm-hmm. God made you and he knows what brings you delight. Oh, that's what, that's what you'll have in heaven. That makes me wanna cry. So, I dunno. Maybe rollercoasters, some theologian's gonna write us an email, but, we don't know what God has in store. We know that we're his beloved and he loves us so much. Yeah. So, we'll, it'll be joy. Mm. Whatever it is. So, I've been thinking a lot about heaven lately. I don't know why I, I think recently there have been a couple of. Not people that I've been close to, but people that I know of that have passed away that are younger. Hmm. Like women, moms And it just made me, you know, sometimes it just makes you pause and be like, yeah, huh. Life is such a gift. But then what's on the other side? And just thinking a lot about, I'm crying, sorry, I'm gonna have to wipe my tears away, but I. I, um, I should have brought tissue. Sometimes I have tissue. Sometimes you do have tissue on the table. Sorry, tissue on the table. We will, oh, that could be another podcast tissue on the table that's on the table or the next book. I don't know. We'll see. Yeah. But anyway, it just has made me be like, what, what is heaven gonna be like? And all I keep thinking about, or the people that are already there and that they're just saying it's better than you can imagine. Mm-hmm. It's so much better than you could even imagine. Mm-hmm. And so that's what I like hang on to when I think about my husband's father is not doing great and they're having to move outta their house. And so that, those kind of things are happening. It's just making you, yeah. Making me and him be sad and, I think. But when you have that hope of heaven mm-hmm. And then when you know it's gonna be better than I can even imagine mm-hmm. It just, it just changes your whole perspective and you're kind of like, okay, well then I can't wait to get there. Right. You know? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I, um, I think that's, you know, that's part of the faith equation. Mm. Is that we. Except parts we don't know about our faith in Christ, and one of them is what heaven will be. Mm-hmm. Exactly. Like mm-hmm. You know, some questions, we don't get answered to that. Yeah. And part of our faith is saying, okay, I mean, we're finite, so we, I don't know that we'd be able to digest all of what it is, Yeah, you're right. We see that in the scripture, even in the presence of God. We wouldn't survive. Mm-hmm. So part of that goriness is something we just can't. Sustain or bear. So it's part of the faith equation that we look forward to that, my mom was sick and in the hospital and we kind of, it was kind of at the beginning of. A long year. Maybe it, it was longer than a decade actually, of her just kind of suffering through her cancer battle. But at the beginning of that, and my aunt was sitting with me in the waiting room and we, didn't get news we wanted. And, mom didn't fully know yet, you know, she wasn't on a surgery. But my aunt had said, you know, we have to trust his sovereignty. And that's what we do. We, we trust his sovereignty and that our bodies are frail and, Waste away so that, we long for our home. This isn't our home. I think it's difficult. This is all we know. Yeah. you know, and, and it seems long. And then we get a little older and we're like, it's long, but it goes so quickly. but to know that it's temporal, our heavenly home is what draws us. Yeah. When I was in the hospital over Christmas, which I think I'd shared that, and listen, it was nothing major. I mean, it could have been, but it wasn't. And. Then coming home here to Tennessee, I was so glad to be back, miss my kids. I mean, I was glad to have them with us when we were there. minus one of our daughters. She was in Denver. But, I don't know the Lord in graciousness to me, help me see a perspective, which I am not gonna get answers to. You know, maybe in glory my mom will tell me. But, being the one in the bed, because I've been on both sides now, I wasn't dying. Okay. But, but I have been on the other side of seeing my mom in mm-hmm. hospital beds for about 14 years before, off and on, before she passed. Being the one for me, being the one in the bed. And I hope this isn't offensive to anyone'cause I, this is only my personal experience, but that was easier for me Hmm. Than being the one watching someone suffer. Really. And I don't know if that's. The mom. Mm-hmm. You know, when my kids were there, you want their, their wellbeing and their happiness and their joy. Um, I don't know, it was just, it was in maybe a piece of the puzzle that I haven't had for mm-hmm. Going through that experience with my mom. Mm-hmm. My mom the anniversary of her death is 18th of April. 20 years. Wow. This year coming up, which is so surprising. So surprising. Yeah. So I was 34 when she passed away, so my oldest daughter is the same age as I was, and I think, oh, holy mackerel. No wonder I was telling the Lord I don't know how to be a woman without her. Like I mm-hmm. You know, you, you rely on your mama so much if, if that's the relationship that you have. And when she did pass thinking I was the one who was hurting so desperately, I, I never would've wanted her to have to come back here after going to heaven. Yeah. You know, not that that's gonna happen, but, joy, unimaginable. Unspeakable and, yeah. Beautiful. Place to be. Yeah. Okay, well, I wish I had tissue. Now that we've cried tissue on the table for you. Oh, I'm okay. I, I, you know, I'm not a crier, right? Like we've talked about this a lot, but recently I just am like. It's okay. Like cry. Mm-hmm. Let let it go. Let let the tears flow. If you're like having those, um, having an emotional moment as you leave Disney World, it's okay. And you know who else cried Laney? She sat back there and she cried too. Aww. And I thought, oh, Laney. And Eric was like, what? What have I done? I think he was kind of like, he planned the whole trip, so I think he was kind of patting himself on the back a little bit. Like I, I planned the vacation that made her cry lifetime, like in a good way. So, yeah, I mean, Lainey was kind of, she's, she's real sentimental. Mm-hmm. And, just very traditional kind of thinking. And so she, in that moment, I think she was feeling the same things I was, you know. Well, you, made the moment. Impressionable for her. Hmm. I mean, you wanted to be in the moment, so you remembered the moment, but your actions exhibit A made the moment memorable for your children. That's true. Without you realizing it. Yeah, it'll be one. And Eric, Eric remembered you remember that year? Remember the year he cried. We left in. Everybody was happy and crying that we went to Disney World. Well,'cause it's like every time we've ever gone, there's just been somebody who's been so little until you. You come back and you're just like, oh man, I'm tired and I was tired. Disney World is not a trip where you relax. It's very much a go, go, go. But it just, it was just so special and so wonderful and the kids were at such great ages to be there. Mm-hmm. It was just the best. You talked about crying and you don't cry a lot. Yeah. Oh mean, I shouldn't say that. I guess I shouldn't. No. Define you that way? Well, no, I've said it. Yeah. I mean, I've seen you teary. Yeah. Um, and I was a little more teary younger years, you know, not so much in older years, but I have had those moments where I'm just driving in my car and it's the song. Hmm. Or it's a thought and the, the tears just come. Mm-hmm. And just flow and flow. And a lot of times, well now all the time I tell myself, just let it go. Yep. Let it go, girl. There's something that has to happen inside that. Yeah. The tears are defining. I don't know what it is. Mm-hmm. Sometimes. and I always feel better on the other side of it. I mean, have a little worry inside there, like, uh oh, I'm. I don't know what's happening, what's going on, what's happening. I agree. Why am I crying? Yeah. But it's good for my heart, so, okay. So I love Hoda copy. Yes. From the Today Show You Stupid. Not anymore. I'm, I'm like still like mourning that loss. But I heard her say one time and I thought this was really good. She said, if you're sitting with someone and they start to cry, don't give them a tissue. Don't do anything because that that stops what's. Trying to come out. Oh. So you just sit there and you just let them be, and you just let them cry and eventually you get them a tissue. but you think about it, if somebody were to walk up and give you, oh, thank you, and you, you know, blot your tears away, but once the tears start flowing that there's a sign of something going on, so just let it, that's so good. Right. Let it come out. I wish. I thought, that's why I wanna say that's why I don't have any tissue for you today, but that's right. That's not true because you knew not true. You're like, sometimes you just gotta let it blow. Let the tears blow no tissues for you. I think that's so interesting because we get the tissues out of caring. Yeah. You know, we wanna comfort. Oh, totally. Right. Like, oh, I'm so sorry. Your get your tissue. Yeah. Yeah. But just to let him, I think I would say too, maybe for me,'cause I'm a talker. Mm-hmm. Um. Maybe don't speak either. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know? Mm-hmm. Maybe just a rub on the shoulder or squeeze of the hand. Mm-hmm. And let whatever started, go on, finish, let'em finish it. Go on. Mm-hmm. I remember completely losing it in the chip aisle at the Walmart after my mom passed away. Oh, no. Like, I mean, I was on the floor squat. Like I, I was, it was, I was a disaster. You were on the floor of the grocery store? Oh yeah. Like squatted down. I wasn't laying down, but I was a disaster. And this man turned to come down the. Chip and he saw me and I just put a hand up like it's good. I'm, I'm good. Just, I don't, I'm not laughing at you. I just don't, I just, just let me have the moment in the chip aisle, you know, Uhhuh and anyways, Uhhuh, I did, I had the moment in the chip aisle with no tissue and you know, just let it go. Breast sucking sobs just to let it go. Mm. It'll have its way, whatever it is. Yeah. Grief or eventually stress or even joy. Joy. That's what my tears were. Yeah. Mm-hmm. they come out somehow. Yeah. Some way, in maybe not so healthy ways if we don't let it go, let it go. Go let it go. Coming home from Disney World, where's Emmy? We, Emmy. She did sing that we did, would go to the pros and sing along. It happened. Oh boy. Oh geez. Well, we've had a couple full weeks. Not together. We've seen each other and passing. I gathered the mail. That was it. Oh, the day that, I gave the mail to Eric. Yeah. Eric was down here talking to Lance. Yeah. Eric's, Liz Lee Lee's husband. Lance is my husband. I came in and the TV was off in the front room. Okay. Above the fireplace. The big one just laying on the sofa and I wait, the TV was off, off, off the wall. Lance called Eric to come help him get this TV down and I thought, oh heavens to Betsy. I don't know what's happening. We're doing a remodel while I'm gone. But anyways, so I gave him, you know, the mail. Mm-hmm. Lance was getting pointers and wanted to pick Eric's brain about trying to do something with this kitchen. Anyways, we've lived here a couple years and haven't kitchen, so Julie's gonna remodel her kitchen kitchen and Eric was so funny. What'd he say? He kind of laughed and he's like, I love spending other people's money. This is great. He does. So cute. He does, and he had some good ideas. Oh, good. He did. I don't know if we can do them, any of them anyways. The point is, I gathered your mail where you were gone. Thank you. We haven't got to see each other a whole big bunch, but it's good to catch up. It is. And spring is here. It is here. I've been in the garden. Uhhuh, tell us about your garden. Oh my heavens. I've been out there. I had, I've done gone two nursery trips and brought some plants home and kept'em in the house. Just'cause we've had some freezing temperatures here and there. Mm-hmm. But put'em out. So now, you know, pray over'em. Please make them. Do you pray over your plants? Oh yeah. Really? I do. I'm like, oh lord, please help him. Just take good solid root and to make it, I mean, they're beautiful. I hate to not be a great garden mom and steward of Yeah, the flowers. I hate to pitch'em. So anyways, yeah, so it's been beautiful. Good spring. So hard. Good Spring happened here. Oh, for sure. Yeah. So season four is upon us. It's here. We, we just recorded the first episode. Julie. Julie, you did it. So excited. Did you did it. I did it. Ho hoo. I know. Proud of you. Who knows what you are starting to create in me? We'll see. I don't know. Mm. Yeah. Spontaneity. I liked it. Again, I think I am apparently. I'm not. 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